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False Preachers, Teachers and Prophets

Our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ said in Matthew 24:5, For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many and again in Matthew 24:11, And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many and in Matthew 24:23 – 22, Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.  For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

 

What are False Prophets and Teachers?  Simply put they are individual men and women that mix lies with the truth in their deliverance of God’s Word.  When you do this mix leaven (lies, sin) with unleavened (God’s Word/Truths) that leaven, unleavened the whole loaf!  You corrupt the Word of God!  These people presume to speak a word in God’s Name thereby taking God’s Name in vain by pretending to speak of God with lies.  God said in Deuteronomy 19:20, But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.  That’s serious don’t you think?

 

God made clear in Deuteronomy 18: 15 – 19 and confirmed in John 6:14, Acts 3:20 – 24 and Acts 7:37 – 38.  If you call yourself a prophet then you’d better past the test as one as Jesus says in Mark 16:15 – 18 and not as in Deuteronomy 18: 20 – 22 or Jeremiah 14:14 – 15.  God’s Truth is preeminent and the Word is truth.  You can’t rebuke Satan using false words you learn from other bibles by men.  False prophets and teachers may provide 95% truth but that 5% unleavened is taking people to hell with them.  Human’s rewards are accolades, money and worldly successes.  Demonic spirits use humans as their instruments to take as many people to hell with them.  Also read Deuteronomy 13:1 – 18 and 2Thessalonians 2:1 – 4.  God does test us and it is our responsibility not the minister, preacher, teacher or prophet to get saved.  It’s the Holy Spirit that has to draw us and not man.  See Hebrews 12:25 – 29, If we hear something and think it came from God but it contradicts the Word of God, then we didn’t hear it from God.  God is not the author of confusion.  When we embrace false prophets we are denying the Word of God.  There are more false prophets, teachers and pastors now than at anytime in history.  Psalm 64 will help because most of us have a fear of man and not of God.  We want to have warm fuzzy feelings and everything is alright sermons that these people tell us. See Isaiah 5:24, Isaiah 30:8 – 32, Jeremiah 5, Jeremiah 6:16 and Zech 13:1 – 9.  God dealt differently with the Jews than with the Gentiles.  They required signs of wonder and had no completed Word.  The Gentiles seek knowledge (Word) and the KJV is the old path (narrow) while other bibles NIV, Amplified, NKJV and others are the broad path (wide) that leads to destruction.  They despise His Word as in Proverbs 13:13 and that’s terrible.  You never hear them teach about the things they should teach about because if they did then you’d figure them out.  They get you to trust what they say so you won’t study the Word to check out if what they tell you is true.  What does 2Timothy 2:15 – 16 say to do?  We simply go fill up their Pugh’s and rely on them because they sound so good.

 

Jesus, Paul, Peter and John told us about them in Matthew 24:11, 24, 2Peter 2:1, 2Corinthians 11:13 – 15, 1Timothy 4:1 – 2 and 1Timothy 1:3 – 4.  Do you really think that false prophets are saved?  They teach us that it’s not right to judge any one.  Look at Romans 15:17 -18 and 1Corinthians 2:15 – 16.  Read 1Corinthians 2:12 – 14.  Proverbs 11:1 – 4 tells us false balance is an abomination to the Lord: but a just weight is His delight.  Do you think the punishment for false prophets will be great?  Again are they saved?  Read again the Apostolic Commission in Mark 16:15.  Now read Revelation 2:2, 2Corinthians 12:12, Matthew 7:15 -27; 10:26 – 42, Acts 20:28 – 38, John 10:12, 13 and Proverbs 14:15.  We have to recognize and find out for ourselves and not leave our destiny in the hands of these people or anyone but Christ Jesus our Lord and Saviour.  They preach well and we look up to them.  Satan puts them in churches and they teach us the easy path and not the hard narrow path.

 

What are the characteristics of false preachers: 1. Appear sincere; 2. Appear intelligent; 3. They’re popular – look at all the people that attend their services; 4. Charming, attractive, prosperity teaching and good at what they do; 5. Knowledgeable, read John 12:42 – 43, Acts 4:13, so you don’t have to have a degree and come out of the Seminaries or the 501C3 State Ordained Prosperity teaching schools.  These false teachers have to do what they do or loose out on money provided to build the huge buildings and if they teach anything else then the hierarchy will punish or expel them.  They have big brother watching over them to make sure they don’t teach you salvation and God’s truth.  They are all about money period!  I’m not saying all of them but most.  If Seminary is the basis for their foundation and it’s corrupted how can they teach righteousness?  Read Matthew 15:10 – 20 and Matthew 24:24!  6. Reassuring – don’t worry everything is going to be ok, just listen to me, 1Timothy 4:1 – 10; 2Timothy 4:1 – 5; 2Timothy 3:1 – 17.  7.  Confident – people follow them, they know it all and you can’t tell them nothing (demon possessed), can’t question them or ask questions.  8. Highly motivated – by money, power, being popular, Satan uses these ministers that have huge followings to take as many to hell as they can.  9.  Harmless in appearance – Satan is the most subtle beast in the field so you lower your guard because they are so nice and say what we want to hear in this materialistic Laodecian Church age.  All RELIGIONS have a hierarchy and involved in cult (unbiblical), momentary happiness and reassurance.  10.  False – not totally true in their delivery, they mix lies with truths.  The demon spirits possess these false prophets and their followers all in the name of God.

 

You can stop being a victim by:

  1. Don’t be a traditional follower – my parents were in this so I am too; people don’t question what parents are doing so we end up honoring man more than God because most don’t have the Word
  2. Arm yourself with knowledge – Hosea 4:6, see in Acts 17:10 -12 how they searched the scriptures daily.  The fruit is many got saved and believed.  You can’t identify false prophets if you don’t have the knowledge.
  3. Don’t be complacent – just feel up the Pugh and take their word without searching the scriptures.
  4. Do your spiritual homework – you’re responsible not the false prophet.  See Philippians 2:12 – 13 (1Corinthians 11:32), John 12:48:50, we’ll all be judged by His Word.  See Ephesians 2:8 – 9. 

What about involvement in politics or government.  The twist scripture because they know most don’t study or pick up the Word (most have Satan’s word) and study what His Words mean.  They use Webster’s Dictionary (Webster a Free Mason) instead of using Strong’s Concordance to see what the meanings are.  Take Jude 8 – 9 and most people think God is talking about man made government.  WRONG!  They think God is talking about foreign dignities.  WRONG!  The government is Jesus’ Spiritual Government because man wasn’t suppose to have a government it was suppose to be God’s, not man’s.  The dignities mean the ‘glorious ones’.  Who are the glorious ones?  Look at verse 9 and it tells you.  Satan the Devil is one and Michael the archangel didn’t do like Satan does in Job and makes accusations to God but simply says, “The Lord rebuke thee.”  What did Jesus do in the wilderness when tempted by Satan?  He said, “Get thee behind me, Satan.”  But what do we do?  We think we can do something to Satan and he likes that because he knows better, but we don’t.  Because we don’t have our minds renewed and put on the new man.  We don’t have the full armor of God plus His helmet of salvation or knowledge.  Satan loves it when we think we can fight him and that’s when he overcomes us.  Satan walks the earth looking to see whom he can devour, who is weak meaning without the full armor of God and helmet of salvation or knowledge.  He’s a ravenous lion and his ministers, teachers and prophets are wolves in sheep clothing!

 

Everyone examines things when they go buy a house, car and other items of the world but when it comes to your salvation we don’t check out the minister or prophet we just believe what they say. Most of us only open the bible on Sunday at church.  How pathetic is that.  Be in the world but not of it, walk in the spirit and not in the flesh.  Learn to fear God and ask for humbleness when you do receive His knowledge.  Most importantly get out from the false prophets and into God’s Word the KJV Bible. 

 

Ten Signs of False Preachers

 

  1. He sells false gospels, thus saves No One:  Why false? Only believe in Christ is the True Gospel and salvation is Permanent.  Bible is unmistakable on this.  So the teacher who adds verbs like baptize, repent, invite, make Christ Lord, say your faith aloud – can’t read bible’s John 3:16 in translation, let alone in the original God breathed Greek.  So The Spirit Is Not In Him!  A teacher who misrepresents the Gospels is either Not Saved or is an apostate, he can’t read bible anymore. Just quietly leave and don’t denounce him to anyone.  God will discipline him to wake him up.
  2. Teacher calls him/herself anointed or a prophet who gets revelation from The Lord in some vision or other way: Warning: if the person must tell you how good he is – he’s not! Typical ploy uses Christian buzzwords, i.e “anointing, burden on my heart or revealed to me, etc.  Notice they invoke God’s Name like a designer label, but no scripture backup.  If the message really came from God, then God will testify to you as you hear it.  The one sending the message should admit but never Claim God’s authority, trusting God will testify His Confirmation.  Notice how Christ never claimed the authority from God even though He is God, but rather referred the hearer to the Content and to Father’s Testimony, in Gospels.  All info comes solely through the WORD post-apostles, says Hebrew 1.  So anyone claiming to be a prophet or apostle after John is a liar.  A. Paul was the last APPOINTED apostle, says 1Cor 15:1 – 8. John was the last living apostle, Rev 1.  B. Canon Closes at the end of Revelation, Rev 22: 6 – 21 is a Drama Greek epilogue closing both History and the Book.  So anyone claiming to be a prophet, prophetess or apostle AFTER this is a liar.  Maybe demon influenced believer, maybe unsaved, but definitely lying, 1John 1:8,10.  C. All authority is through pastor-teachers post 96AD when God completed the Canon, Eph 4: 11 – 16; 1 Cor 13.  D. Notice how Paul invokes Isa 28: 1 – 12 to show tongues die when the Temple does in 1Cor 14: 21 – 22.  So anyone claiming tongues still exist, can’t read Bible either.  E. Jer 27: 9; 28:17; Isa 1; 28; Matt 7; 1Cor 3; 2Cor 11; 2Tim 2:26; 3:7; Gal 3; 5; 2Pet 2; 3; 1John 2; 2John 7; 11 also cover teachers falsely claiming authority from God.  False teaching is the popular trend of history.  Liars will allege they determine what is Canon and when completed (i.e. those Councils at Nicaea, yesterdays mystics, today’s prophets or Mohammed).
  3. Teacher childishly reads spirituality, stresses body works and/or ritual, miracles:  Most Christians want a “rah rah” warm and fuzzy feeling Jesus brand of religion, rituals and works over which they can preen.  They want entertainment, miracles, songs – but not God.  False teachers CATERS to their sinful desires, 1John, 2Pet 2, Jude 9, 2Tim 2: 26; 3:7.  A good teacher tries to RAISE his congregation above that childish view of spirituality, so will teach beyond it.  But a bad teacher wants to be regarded well, so will CATER to it, as has happened since 1st century AD.  So every foot stomping teacher, every healing teacher, every tongues teacher, every mega-church teacher, every prosperity gospel teacher and every denominational ritual teacher, CATERS!
  4. Teacher claims you don’t need to name your sins to God:  Naming sins to God is vital to post salvation spiritual growth.  If you don’t name your sins to God as you remember them (or at least admit you sinned, even if you don’t remember exactly what or when) you will retard spiritually.  So the teacher not warning you to name your sins is himself retarded spiritually and carnal.  You can’t spiritually grow under him.  So too, if the teacher says you must admit your sins to those OTHER THAN God, i.e. Roman Catholicism.  1John 1:9 is to God ALONE.
  5. Teacher claims God is not TRINITY or that Christ was not God (i.e. was an Angel or wasn’t Divine until after the Cross):  Juridical Independence is required for Salvation to be juridical valid:  a. so three Gods must be involved, b. each Infinitely Co-Equal, c. Father, Son, Spirit, d. Father judges, e. Son takes on Humanity and in that Humanity pays, f. Spirit Sustains that Humanity, g. Thus Salvation is True payment – NOT moving the money from one pocket to the other.  For if God were only one Person, He pays Himself; so He doesn’t really get paid!  Payment must come from someone else of the SAME Stature.  The teacher who doesn’t understand this, can’t read bible, so can’t read the Thousands of references to Trinity in both Old and New Testaments.  Every page in the Bible has verses on Trinity and Christ’s God-man nature.  Save time and ask God to help you spot them.
  6. Teacher claims Rapture invalid or not pre-Trib:   This claim is a form of anti-Semitism.  God punishes anti-Semitism very severely.  God promised Israel 1,000 years under a Son of David and reserved 7 years to antecede that promise.  There wasn’t supposed to be a Church.  Christ had to invent it to save Time, in Matt 16: 18, ratified in John 17 as a post-mortem New Testament Father would fulfill at His Discretion.  Book of Hebrews is on this topic.  Else we’d not be here to read it.  So the teacher who doesn’t know that unknowingly serves Satan.  For Satan wants to denigrate and kill all Jews.
  7. Teacher claims Church started in Abraham’s tent or that Jewish Covenant replaced BY Church or that the Jews are not the true Israelites:  Read Books of Hebrews and Ephesians (especially Hebrews 5; 10; Eph 2) Romans 9; 11.  Even in translation you can tell there are Two Separate Kingship Covenants, not just one.  Church gets the Pre-Israel Covenant of battleship royalty if Christ won at the cross, per Psalm 110 which Hebrews 5; 10 explain.  Thus the promise of the “new covenant” to Israel would still be bridged despite her rejection.  Jeremiah 31:31 – 34 explained in Hebrews 8:8; 10:17.  Israel’s covenant is unchanged vested in Messiah per Eph 2, Rom 9;11 and Hebrews 11: 39-40.  To sell lies three outer falsehoods will be employed which always beguile negative-to-God believers and non believers. Numbers 8 – 10 cover these.
  8. Teacher claims respectability appeal:  This is an appeal to mass approval, vox dei vox populi.  If the peers accept the teacher then he/she must be from God is the lie sold.  So YOU bypass checking what he/she says versus the Word of God.  YOU make excuses to buy what that false teacher sells in the name of so many approving him/her.  So YOU are to blame not the false teacher.
  9. Teacher claims he/she is teaching the one true faith or similar exclusive claim:  This arrogation by a teacher or sect (i.e. Catholicism, Calvinism, other sects) is often base on appeal to history, tradition – so a variant of respectability claim.  Yeah, history is full of LIARS.  So old liars are respected.  Notice the bible negates their claims i.e. 1John 2:2 instantly refutes Calvinism, Matt 16:18 in Greek instantly proves Catholic Church Pope claim a lie, via the 77 uses of Petra (Bedrock = Christ) vs. petros  (chip = Peter) in the Bible (esp. 2Cor 10:4).  Lukewarm (Laodiceans) folks go for traditions, majority rules and ritual as majestic or respectable.  So they learn the God of the Bible not at all.  What they learn instead is works and being nice to people.  So they can’t detect falsehood at all.  The Word of God takes SECOND PLACE to works, respectability, being nice, observing special rituals, days and traditions.  For people is the god instead of God.  So the false teacher CATERS to the lukewarm love of people and past.
  10. Teacher advocates political activism:   Revelation 17 is on the evil of marrying church and state (mystery is a moniker for Church in the NT).  So all political activism is satanic i.e. profile, gay marriage – if pushed on civil government.  For if you’re busy petitioning Caesar you’re refusing God, 2Chr 7:14; Isa 30: 3 – 7; 31:1, “My Kingdom is not of this world.” “They are not of this world”, give to God what is Gods”.  There are many prohibitions in the Bible!  False doctrine is urged politically; and there are often many bible verses proving the doctrine false, i.e. blasphemous claim that soul life is in the womb makes God a murderer, sadist, denies salvation since human brain completes just before birth – so Christ could not stay sinless, if the soul in utero!  Violate Ex 21:22 and “mi beten” and “me rechem” verses. 

Summary of False Teacher Fruit

 

  1. He sells false gospels, saves NO One.
  2. He calls himself a ‘prophet’ who gets ‘revelation from the Lord’.
  3. He childishly ‘reads’ spirituality as ‘body stuff’ and/or ritual, miracles.
  4. He claims you don’t need to name your sins to God.
  5. He claims God is not Trinity or that Christ was not God (i.e. Angel or not God until after the Cross).
  6. He claims Rapture is invalid or is not pre-trib.
  7. He claims Church began in Abraham’s tent, Church REPLACED or Jews not true Israelites.
  8. He claims respectability.
  9. He claims he’s teaching the one true faith or similar exclusive claim.
  10. He advocates political activism. 

Some False Teachers: TBN, Joel Osteen, Paul Crouch, Jan Crouch, Benny Hinn, his wife, Rick Warren, Creflo Dollar, Eddie Long, T.D. Jakes, Kim Clement, Paula White, Kenneth and Gloria Copeland, Jesse Duplantis, and Rodney Howard Browne appeared in a video and taught false doctrine. Beware of these ravenous wolves.

 

Some False Prophets: Ellen G. White, Joseph Smith, Kim Clement, Mark Charonna, Juanita Bynum, Brigham Young, Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, Jack Van Impe, John Kilpatrick.

 

Heretical Books & Movements: New World Translation, Kenneth Copeland Study Bible, Book of Mormon, Brownsville Revival, Azusu Street Revival, Pensacola Outpouring, Holy Laughter, Slain in the Spirit, Gospel in the Stars, Endtime Restorationism, King James Onlyism, Perpetual 5-Fold Ministry, Free Masonry.

 

Some Problematic Teachers: Pat Robertson, D. James Kennedy, Joel Osteen.

 

No one takes delight in pointing out people who prostitute the Holy Scriptures. You just have to be committed to standing for the truth and God’s Truths at all costs.  These people are taking people to hell.  We need to pray for them all and that they will repent and come to God’s Truth!  Everyone likes to use these verses to justify why you don’t judge anyone, Matthew 7:1 – 2, Luke 6:37 and the reason God tells us this is because we judge in the flesh John 8:15.  We dont’ judge in the flesh but in the spirit as He says in 1Corinthians 2:15.

 

The Bible says that FALSE, Christs, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, workers, and brethren will come from the churches and to the churches particularly in the end times, Matthew 24:5, 11-12, 23 – 24. God wants the true believers to be aware of them and to reject them. They will come appearing as true and sincere but they are deceptive workers. For example a false pastor will appear as a true pastor, a false prophet will appear as a true prophet, a false teacher will appear as a true teacher, and so on. In short, a false church will appear as a true church. Even though they appear as true, Jesus Christ says that they are wolves in sheep’s clothing & they will deceive many. If possible they will seduce even the very elect with signs and wonders. Etc… So, if you and I do not know the difference between the true and false workers, then we will be deceived. The Word of God teaches how to know a true pastor from false pastors, a true prophet from false prophets, a true teacher from false teachers, a true worker from false workers, a true evangelist from false evangelists, and so on. Read 2Corinthians 6:14, Ephesians 5:11 and 1John 1:6.  The word of God cautions us about them, instructs us to identify them and advise us to reject them. With this in mind let us study the word of God our selves with the help of God’s Holy Spirit.  God says in 2Timothy 3:16 that, All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: Why? 2Timothy 3:17, That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished (meaning equipped) unto all good works.  Fellowship with likeminded believers for edification as in 1John 1:7!

 

Acknowledgement to DefendChrist.org and Dr. Scott Johnson.

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March 20, 2009 - Posted by | Spiritual | , , , , , ,

8 Comments »

  1. Thanks for the Good writings it is helped me lot Spiritually.

    Comment by k.c.babu | March 24, 2009 | Reply

    • K.C.Babu, thank you for your reply. It is my earnest hope that what I put out here will glorify God and not me. I pray that those who don’t know, believe in God will draw towards Him through our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. I also pray that those that are caught up in Religion or in places where they are receiving false doctrines and teachings which come from Satan will come out from them which is darkness and come into the light which is Jesus Christ. May God bless you and continue to open your eyes so you can see and open you ears so you can hear. All glory to God.

      Comment by nonlukewarm | March 24, 2009 | Reply

  2. If I hear you correctly, you are teaching that a person does NOT have to be baptised in order for their sins to be forgiven? This is in direct opposition to the holy scriptures.

    I used to believe just like most Christians do, that baptism is just an “outward sign” of a believers’ faith in Christ. But, show me ONE scripture that shows this. Show me just ONE scripture that says what baptism is FOR.

    Here is my explanation of what baptism is FOR:

    The verse here: 43 “To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.” is where we see the word believeth, which means to ‘put in trust with,’ meaning we are to follow Christ. Notice that here: 47 Can any man forbid water that these should not be baptized which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord Then prayed they him to tarry certain days” – it shows Peter COMMANDING them to be baptised. Also, they may have been baptized by John. In any case, the act of baptising washes away our sins. It surely doesn’t mean that we show the world that we believe, since the speaking in tongues already signified this.

    Acts 1:5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence. – This was the ministry of John; It was to baptise people with the babtism of repentance for the remission of their sins.

    Acts 19:2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. 3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism. 4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. 5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. -Notice they they believed, then the Holy Ghost came upon them, and then they were baptised. Being born again comes first, then the commandment to be baptized, of which the bible says it washes away our sins.

    Galatians 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. – Here we find that the act of baptism actually means something other than an “outward sign” of a believers’ faith. The act of going under the water signifies our death to the body of sin. The act of coming up out of the water signifies our living by faith in Christ by the leading of the Holy Spirit. We have “put on Christ” by baptism.

    Mark 1:4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins. 5 And there went out unto him all the land of Judaea, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins. 6 And John was clothed with camel’s hair, and with a girdle of a skin about his loins; and he did eat locusts and wild honey; 7 And preached, saying, There cometh one mightier than I after me, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to stoop down and unloose. 8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. – We see here that John preached the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins. Was this just an “outward sign,” too?

    Luke 1:9 And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan. 10 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him: 11 And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. – This happened immediately after Jesus was baptised by John. Why did Jesus have to be baptised by John, since He was sinless? John’s baptism was a baptism of repentance for the remission of sins. Why did the “Spirit like a dove” descend upon Him after He was baptised by John? Surely baptism here was not just “an outward sign.”

    1 Corinthians 1:14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius; 15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name. 16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other. 17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. – He is just stating that he was a preacher, not one who baptised. He had others baptise them. This in no way takes away from the other scriptures that say what baptism is for. Paul goes on to say in another epistle what baptism is FOR.

    Romans 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness
    of his resurrection: 6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. 7 For he that is dead is freed from sin. – This IS what happens when a believer (notice that ONLY a believer is baptised, someone who has ALREADY been born again) is baptised; he is baptised into Christ’s death, planted in the
    likeness of His death, crucified with Him that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. We come up out of the water signifying the resurrection of Christ so we can walk in newness of life. Notice the word “therefore” in verse 4.

    1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: – This shows that baptism is needed for the believer to have forgiveness of sins, since we cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven unless our sins are forgiven. This again shows that when a believer is baptised, he is resurrected with Christ when he comes up out of the water.

    Acts 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. – This signifies the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Covenant written on our hearts by the Holy Spirit. These, I believe, all had been baptised by John.

    Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. – Here we see that baptism is essential for the forgiveness of sins. If someone does not believe, baptism is useless.

    Acts 22:12 And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt there, 13 Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him. 14 And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth. 15 For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard. 16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord. – Here we see that AFTER one has been
    born again, he is commanded to be baptised to “wash away” their sins.

    Acts 8:35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. 36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. 38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. 39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing. – Here we see that he had ALREADY believed with all his heart. Notice that it doesn’t say that baptism is an “outward sign” of his belief in Christ.

    I believe these scriptures teach that once a person believes (verb as to put trust in) they need to be baptised, but not for a public show to people (this is not even found in scripture), but for the remission of their sins, as the scriptures state.

    BTW, people like to mention the criminal being crucified next to Jesus. But, he may have been baptized by John. But that doesn’t even matter, since Christ had not even been killed yet, and Jesus Christ had authority to forgive men their sins.

    Here are two articles explaining what baptism is FOR:

    http://www.padfield.com/1995/sins.html

    http://www.bibletalk.net/articles/baptism.html

    Thanks for listening,
    777denny

    Comment by Denny | April 26, 2009 | Reply

    • Thanks Denny, it is always a pleasure to speak and converse with believers of Jesus Christ. I hope you are one also that doesn’t mind if we agree to disagree and still love one another in Christ.

      There were two baptisms. One was with water unto repentence by John the Baptist but the later and better was by Jesus Christ where you arent’ baptised with water but with the Holy Ghost.

      Galatians 3:26 – 27 deal with being baptised in Christ when we do as God said in John 3:16. When we accept Christ as our Lord and Saviour we are baptised with the Holy Ghost. Water baptism is only an outward testimony to the world.

      If you remember there were those that had to be baptised with the Holy Spirit because they had only been baptised under John the Baptists baptism and didn’t have the Holy Ghost.

      Please read Matthew 3:11, Mark 1:4, Luke 3:16, John 1:26,33 and 1Corinthians 1:17, in which Paul is telling them he didn’t come to baptize them put preach the gospel which would have them be baptized in Christ Jesus. Please read the following:

      “Note on Baptism in Ac. Baptism in water (such as John’s) is distinguished from baptism with the Holy Spirit (i. 5, etc.). Those who receive the latter, however, may also be baptized in water (cf. xi. 16 with x. 47); and there is one example of people who had previously received John’s baptism receiving Christian baptism as a preliminary to receiving the Spirit (xix. 3 ff.). John’s was a baptism of repentance (xiii. 24; xix. 4), as was also Christian baptism (ii. 38), but as John’s pointed forward to Jesus (xix. 4), it became obsolete when He came. Christian baptism followed faith in the Lord Jesus (xvi. 31 ff.); it was associated with His name (ii. 38; viii. 16, etc.), which was invoked by the person baptized (xxii. 16); it signified the remission (ii. 38) or washing away of sins (xxii. 16); sometimes it preceded (ii. 38; viii. 15 ff.; xix. 5), sometimes followed (x. 47 f.) the receiving of the Spirit.” (F. F. Bruce. The Acts of the Apostles [Greek Text Commentary], London: Tyndale, 1952, p. 98, n. 1.)

      Jesus is our baptism just as He is our law. God bless you my Brother in Christ.

      Comment by nonlukewarm | April 26, 2009 | Reply

      • nonlukewarm,

        You wrote: “Water baptism is only an outward testimony to the world.”

        Nowhere in the holy scriptures do you find this teaching. This is exactly what I used to believe until I studied the scriptures for myself.

        The baptism of the Holy Spirit is is NOT the reference in
        Galatians 3:26,27.

        Galatians 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

        baptizo (bap-tid’-zo): baptize, wash – From a derivative of bapto; to immerse, submerge; to make whelmed (i.e. Fully wet); used only (in the New Testament) of ceremonial ablution, especially (technically) of the ordinance of Christian baptism — Baptist, baptize, wash.

        This is talking about WATER baptism, not the baptism of the Holy Spirit.

        Matthew 3:11 deals with Jesus Christ baptising believers with the Holy Spirit. This does NOT negate the meaning of water baptism.

        Luke 3:16 just deals with John turning the heart of the Israelites to the LORD.

        Mark 1:4 deals with John baptism of repentence, which is the SAME baptism that Christian believers use to wash away our sins.

        John 1:26 tells us John baptised with water, while verse 33 explains that after Jesus was baptised in the water by John, the Spirit descended and remained upon Christ.

        1 Corinthians 1:17 just explains that Paul didn’t come to baptise, but to preach the gospel. He had others baptise those that believed upon Jesus. If you read my comment to you, Paul explain in another epistle what baptism is FOR:

        Romans 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: 6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

        Answer me this;why do you think Jesus had to be baptised by John?

        Here’s what Jesus Christ said about baptism:

        Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

        Notice that Jesus said to them to baptise them in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. People cannot baptise other people with the Holy Spirit, although the scriptures do say they after one has been baptised with water, people are instructed to lay their hands on them so that they may receive the Holy Spirit.

        Acts 8:15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost: 16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.) 17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost. 18 And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles’ hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money, 19 Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost.

        Notice that they had only been BAPTISED in water in the Name of the Lord Jesus. Then they laid hands upon them and they received the Holy Spirit. So your teaching is not correct when you say believers recieve the Holy Spirit when they accept Jesus as Lord and Savior. This is NOT found in scripture, but used by false teachers who have lied to us all. They had already put their faith in Jesus.

        Acts 9:17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost. 18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.

        The above scripture states Paul was to be filled with the Holy spirit. He received his sight and was baptised after arising.

        Acts 22:12 And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt there, 13 Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him. 14 And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth. 15 For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard. 16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

        The above scripture says Paul was baptized to “wash away” his “sins.”

        Acts 8:34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man? 35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. 36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. 38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. 39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.

        The above scripture says that if the eunuch beleived with all his heart, he then could be baptised with water, after Philip had explained what water baptism was for.

        Acts 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. 45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, 47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

        The above scripture states that in this case they had believed, then received the Holy Ghost, then were COMMANDED to be baptised. They didn’t need to be baptised if according to your teaching, baptism is only for “an outward testimony,” since the testomony was that the people heard them speaking in ‘tongues.’

        Let’s see what else the Lord said about baptism:

        Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues

        The above scripture says that he that believeth AND is baptized shall be saved. One of the signs of a believer shall be speaking with new tongues.

        1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

        The above scripture says that baptism doth save us. We are crucified with Christ when we go down into the water signifying Christ’s death. When we come out of the water we signify Christ’s resurrection from the dead. Don’t believe me? Read on…

        Romans 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? 3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

        We see above that as many as were BAPTISED into Jesus Christ were baptised into His death! When we rise from the water we should walk in newness of life. Still don’t believe me? Read on…

        Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

        Want more proof that not everyone who believes in Jesus Christ has the Holy Spirit? Read Christ’s parable about the ten virgins:

        Matthew 25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. 2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish. 3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them: 4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. 5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. 6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him. 7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. 8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. 9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. 10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. 11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. 12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not. 13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

        I believe that the oil Jesus is talking about is the Holy Spirit, since the Holy Spirit leads us into righteousness, which is GOOD WORKS. Remember that Jesus said let your light so shine that they may SEE your GOOD WORKS and glorify God?

        So, in conclusion, what you teach is in direct opposition to what the bible teaches. You are just repeating the same false doctrine I used to believe in for many, many years.

        I gave you two excellent resources for further research.

        My ministry is to set poeople FREE from believing AND teaching false doctrine. I do NOT want you to be comfortable teaching others your false doctrine. A brother who loves you will give you some wounds, but an enemy may kiss you a thousand times.

        Thanks for listening,
        777denny

        Comment by Denny | April 29, 2009

  3. Also, one MUST repent (be willing to forsake their sins) in order to be born again. He also MUST endure to the end, as Jesus Christ warned again and again. There is NO ‘once saved always saved” gospel. That is a FALSE gospel preaching of a FALSE Jesus. These same false teachers and preachers also say that Christians will be “raptured” before the start of Daniel’s 70th week. They are adding and/or taking away from the prophecy of the book of Revelation, which Jesus Christ warned that those who do this would receive God’s wrath.

    We must believe God exists first, then believe that God sent His Son as a perfect, sinless sacrifice to die for our sins, then be willing to repent from our sins and make Jesus our Lord instead of following our sinful nature, then be baptised for the remission of our sins, then REMAIN in Christ till the end. This is the true gospel of Jesus Christ.

    Thanks for listening,
    777denny

    Comment by Denny | April 26, 2009 | Reply

    • There is no doubt there are so many false teachers/preachers as Jesus warned us today. The prosperity preachers are taking so many people to hell. We must pray for those trapped in religions and following false preachers/teachers that they come out from them and pray for those false preachers/teachers that they repent also.

      May God continue to bless, guide and teach you.

      Comment by nonlukewarm | April 26, 2009 | Reply

  4. I’ll bet that everyone would get a big jolt out of reading “Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty” on the “Powered by Christ Ministries” site! Thomas

    Comment by Thomas | April 27, 2009 | Reply


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